Dilated Cardiomyopathy/Arrythmias

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patrick88

Dilated Cardiomyopathy/Arrythmias

Bericht door patrick88 » za apr 08, 2006 8:22 pm

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Re: Dilated Cardiomyopathy/Arrythmias

Bericht door Patrick88 » za apr 08, 2006 8:24 pm

patrick88 schreef:Patrick88
>Hi Willy, yes. What would you recommend? My Doctor is currently doing a
>blood test to find out if i'm deficiant in Carnitine. My Sister's Daughter
>who has (Mytocondrial Disease) and a low EF (20's) was found to be deficiant
>in Carnitine, so they tested my sister and she was found to be deficiant as
>well. Her daughter (2 Years old) started taking a Carnitine suppliment along
>with her regular medications and now her EF is almost normal (High 40's).
>Her doctors are not sure if the improvement was directly from the Carnitine
>or from the medications. My sister is perfectly healthy.
>
>Another note, 2 of my siblings also have Dilated Cardiomyopathy which was
>detected in all of us in our mid 30's. Myself, just one year ago. I have
>always been very very active in sports and in very good shape. I am very
>curious to find out if I am dificiant in Carnitine and if suppliments could
>make my heart stronger. Why do my Doctor's seem to have minimal to no
>knowledge of these metobolic dificiancies which could possible help
>patients?
>
>Regards
>Patrick
>pgroark@hotmail.com
>
>
>
>>From: Willy Witsel <wwitsel@knoware.nl>
>>To: "Patrick Groark" <pgroark@hotmail.com>
>>CC: ortho-vitea@home.nl
>>Subject: Re: personal treatment protocol "Treatment Dilated Cardiomyopathy
>>(Heart Failure)"
>>Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:20:50 +0200
>>
>>Hello Pat what is your question, do you need support from us to implement
>>the heart failure protocol?
>>
>>regards
>>
>>Willy
>>
>>At 15:06 5-4-2006 -0400, you wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >You are diagnosed with? Dilated Cardiomyopathy
>> >
>> >Your current condition? Mild case of Dilated Cardiomyopathy which include
>> >arrhythmias.
>> >
>> >Ejection Fraction? 40-45%
>> >
>> >Cause of your disease? Idiopathic
>> >
>> >Blood pressure? 120/70 as of 3/30/06
>> >
>> >Possible nutritional restrictions (salt, water, etc): Advised by
>> >Cardiologist to watch salt intake.
>> >
>> >Are you using dueretics? No
>> >
>> >Are you using Beta Blockers like Sotalol? Yes. Lisinopril. Use Toprol for
>> >arrhythmia's.
>> >
>> >Are you frequently tired? No
>> >
>> >Do you use lots of sugar? No
>> >
>> >Can you skip a meal or eat three hours later without any problems? Yes
>> >
>> >Link to this page:
>>
>http://utopia.knoware.nl/~wwitsel/main/ ... myopathy.h
>>eart.failure.1.html
>> >with link text: "Treatment Cardiomyopathy (Heart Failure)"
>> >
>> >Your email adress
>> >pgroark@hotmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Pat
>> >pgroark@hotmail.com

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Bericht door Corrij (therapeut) » za apr 08, 2006 8:41 pm

Hello Patrick,

First of all, welcome to this forum. :D

Do you want to follow the heart failure protocol?
If so I suggest the following

Do you think your cardiologist would mind you using supplements to improve your health?
And could you find out if you can get the supplements by the makes of Solgar or Pharma Nord or Now?

I suggest that you start with 200mcg Chromium GFT, you can start this without a problem.
MSM, the final dosage is 3000 mg but we’ll build it up slowly, I suggest 500 mg for the first few days, If this goes well then 500 extra untill you are at the 3000 mg.
You have to build it up slowly because MSM detoxifies and it can cause headache, diarrhoea or tiredness.
Msm and chromium are not a part of the heart failure protocol but they are meant to give you more energy.

regards,Corrij
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Gast

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Bericht door Gast » wo mei 31, 2006 11:16 pm

Hi Corrij, I have ordered the Chromium and MSM via Solgar. I just want to confirm that Chromium Picolinate is the correct product? As soon as I receive them and get up to 3000mg of MSM, I will let you know. Also, what would be the next suppliments I would need to get?

Thank You
Patrick

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Bericht door Corrij (therapeut) » do jun 01, 2006 12:12 pm

Hi Patrick,

For now you can take the picolinate but
when you order new chromium you must have the chromium GTF and not the piconilate.
When you received the MSM Patrick build it up slowly like I explane before :wink:

You can order the next supplements,but you may not taking them yet.
The first step is MSM and chromium.

Q10
Taurine
alpha-lipoic acid
Vitamin C
Magnesium glycinate
Arginie/ornithine

groetjes,corrij
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Bericht door Patrick88 » wo jun 14, 2006 7:46 pm

Hi Corrij, I am up to speed with the Chromium 200 mg and MSM 3000mg with no problems. What is my next step?

Thank You
Patrick

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Bericht door Corrij (therapeut) » wo jun 14, 2006 10:12 pm

Hi Patrick,

It`s time we start with the real heart failure protocol :D
I suggest the following supplements,

Arginie/ornithine 3 capsules a day at night before you go to bed on a empty stomach

Q10 2x 100 mg. per day

Taurine 3x500mg. Per day

L-Carnitine 3x 500 mg. per day (I was forgotten this supplement in my last message)

Alpha-lipioc acid 2 x 100 mg a day

Vitamin E 400 IE 1 x a day

Magnesium glycinate 2 x 100 mg a day

I would also like to Advice you Patrick to use 3x 1000mg vitamine C, and
also a multivitamine

I just wanted to say that it would be best to take the carnitine and the taurine
separately on a empty stomach.


For instance the carnitine half an hour before breakfast or two hours after breakfast

The taurine half an hour before lunch or diner. or two hours after
This is to get an as big as possible effect.

Hope to hear from you soon,

regards,Corrij
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Patrick88

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Bericht door Patrick88 » di jul 18, 2006 7:35 pm

Hi Corrij, I'm getting ready to start the protocol and have a couple questions, what type of L-Carnitine should I be using, just L-Carnitine or
Acetyl L-Carnitine? Also, is CoQ10 and Q10 the same?

Thank You.
Patrick

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Bericht door Willy » di jul 18, 2006 8:30 pm

Corrij is on holiday

Acetyl l carnitne is better, the dose is 3 x 500mg but more expensive

l-carnitine will also do the job use 3 x 2 x 300mg

CoQ10 = Q10, make sure is is a oil capsule with vitamine E added.
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Bericht door patrick88 » wo aug 09, 2006 8:41 pm

Hi Corrij

I have all the suppliments and have started the protocol. I just want
to confirm what time of day I should be taking each one. Here is how I am taking the suppliments, please advise if this is OK?

>Arginie/ornithine 3 capsules a day (at night before you go to bed on a empty stomach)

>Q10 2x 100 mg. per day (Empty stomach 1/2 hour before dinner)

>Taurine 3x500mg. Per day (Empty stomach 1/2 hour before lunch)

>L-Carnitine 3x 500 mg. per day (Empty stomach 1/2 hour before Breakfast)
>
>Alpha-lipioc acid 2 x 100 mg a day (will take with meals with other meds with food in the morning)

>Vitamin E 400 IE 1 x a day (will take with meals with other meds on food in the morning)

>Magnesium glycinate 2 x 100 mg a day (will take with meals with other meds on food in the morning)

>I would also like to Advice you Patrick to use 3x 1000mg vitamine C, and
also a multivitamine (will take with meals with other meds on food in the morning)
Regards,

Pat

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Bericht door Willy » vr aug 11, 2006 1:46 pm

How did you respond on MSM and chromium?
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Bericht door patrick88 » vr aug 11, 2006 4:04 pm

Hi Groeten, I had no problems with the Chromium and MSM. I have actually started the protocal on 31 Jul 06 and just wanted to make sure I'm taking suppliments as I should be. Thanks for your reply and hope to hear back from you soon.

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Regards,

Pat

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Bericht door Willy » vr aug 11, 2006 4:55 pm

I wanted to know if you got more energy with MSM and chromium

If not we can cancel them from the protocol
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Bericht door patrick88 » ma aug 14, 2006 5:33 pm

Hi Groeten, I do have more energy since takling MSM & Chromium. Shall I continue taking these?

Thank You
Patrick88
Regards,

Pat

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Bericht door Corrij (therapeut) » ma aug 14, 2006 6:18 pm

Hi Patrick,

Great,youre on the forum :D
Please continue taking the MSM and the chromium,I am very glad to hear that your energy is so much better now.

regards Corrij
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