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Geplaatst: vr sep 16, 2005 5:16 pm
door Corrij (therapeut)
Hello Praveen,



It’s a shame that it’s so difficult for you to get the supplements.
I can imagine that your wife wants to start as soon as possible, I propose the following.
She can start with the L-Carnitine and the chromium. Make sure you use chromium gtf and not chromium piconilate ( and stick to the right amounts )

Forget the B15 for now and slowly try the MSM, they do have this at Solgar sa.
Build up the MSM in the following way,

I suggest that you start with 200mcg Chromium GFT, 3x a day,you can start this without a problem.
MSM, the final dosage is 3000 mg but we’ll build it up slowly, I suggest 500 mg for the first few days, If this goes well then 500 extra untill you are at the 3000 mg.
You have to build it up slowly because MSM detoxifies and it can cause headache, diarrhoea or tiredness.
Msm and chromium are not a part of the heart failure protocol but they are meant to give you more energy.

Praveen, could you let me know which auxiliary substances are in the chromium and the MSM
then I can see if things are right. Soon I will give you the complete list of supplements that we use for heart failure,
then you can see what you can get in SA and what you have to order from the Netherlands that way you’ll only have to pay
for the shipping costs once. Is that ok with you?

warmest regards,

Geplaatst: vr sep 16, 2005 9:51 pm
door praveen
Dear Willy

Thanks for the reply.

I will get more information and pass on tommorow

I appreciate the efforts of everyone,have a blessed weekend.

Praveen

Geplaatst: vr sep 16, 2005 9:57 pm
door praveen
Dear Corrij

Thanks so much for the reply

I really appreciate it.I will make contact with our local health shop and
get all the relevant information and pass onto you.

Once again I must express my thanks

God Bless
Praveen

Geplaatst: ma sep 19, 2005 3:27 pm
door Gast
Dear Corrij/Willy

Hope you guys had a lovely weekend.

I am able to get the following in SA,I managed to find a local health shop that keeps the Solgar products-I never knew that this shop existed until I started looking.

1. Maxi L-Carnitine 500 mg
2.Chromium GTF- 100 mcg
3. MSM 1000 mg

These are the Solgar range.However I was not able to get the auxillary substances cause they were out of stock, but the owner said these products are not manufactured locally but made in USA and distributed through the UK.However he does not keep all the Solgar products,so I may have to get some other types from you guys.

Please let me have your thoughts

Regards
Praveen

Geplaatst: ma sep 19, 2005 8:51 pm
door Corrij (therapeut)
Hello Praveen,



These three supplements are fine, I’ve checked with Solgar. This will be enough for a few weeks and then we’ll start the heart failure protocol. As I’ve mentioned your wife can start with these three. I hope that she’ll have more energy within the week.

Build up the MSM slowly because she can experience some detox signs.

Let me know how things are going after a day or so,


Greetings, also to your wife,


Corrij


Ps. Here is a list of supplements she’ll need in the future, would you be so kind as to see what you can get in SA?

Q10

Taurine

Vitamin C

Multi vitamin

Alph-Lipon

Arginine / Ornithine

Geplaatst: ma sep 19, 2005 9:40 pm
door praveen
Dear Corrij

Thanks for the reply.

Could you please confirm the dosage of the supplements to take
I can get the following at the moment

1. Maxi L-Carnitine 500 mg
2.Chromium GTF- 100 mcg
3. MSM 1000 mg

I see that the strength is a little different to the ones you have indicated before.Please confirm for me.

Also let me know when you say 3 a day or 2 a day , should I divide
them between meals or take 3 at once.

Thanks Again
God Bless
Praveen

Geplaatst: ma sep 19, 2005 9:43 pm
door praveen
Hi Corrij

Would you be able to tell me the cost of these products in the Netherlands.?

Just curious.

Thanks
Praveeen

Geplaatst: di sep 20, 2005 4:55 pm
door Corrij (therapeut)
Hello Praveen,

The chromium 3x 2 tablets (200mcg) a day,you can take this with the meal.

The MSM 3 x 1000 mg a day with the meal

The Carnitine 3 x 500 mg a day and you have to take this on a empty stomach, so half an hour before or two
hours after the meal

The costs of the chromium at the moment in the Netherlands is 0.24 euro cents ( for 600 mcg) a day

The MSM is 0.59 euro cents ( for 3000mg)a day

The carnitine 2.50 euros ( for 1500mg)a day



Best regards,

Geplaatst: di sep 20, 2005 5:13 pm
door praveen
Dear Corrij

Thanks for the reply.I appreciate it.We will start tommorrow.
Should all the supplements be taken at once,or can we divide them for
different times in the day.



Thanks

Best Wishes
Praveen

Geplaatst: di sep 20, 2005 5:23 pm
door Corrij (therapeut)
Dear Praveen,

You can divide them for different times,

Good luck,and please let me know how things are going :P

greetings,

Geplaatst: wo sep 21, 2005 9:44 pm
door Corrij (therapeut)
Hello Praveen,

Just to be sure, youre wife is started with the next supplements,

Chromium GTF,6x100mcg a day,
MSM 3x1000mg a day and the Carnitine 3x500mg a day?

She must build up the MSM slowly as I explain earlier,this is very important, I suggest 500 mg for the first few days, If this goes well then 500 extra untill you are at the 3000 mg.
You have to build it up slowly because MSM detoxifies and it can cause headache, diarrhoea or tiredness.

regards, :P

Geplaatst: do sep 22, 2005 1:37 pm
door praveen
Thanks Corrij

Thanks for the concern

We will follow your instructions.

Can you give me some background information on this forum, when it started,who inspired it etc

Are you able to give me some success stories.

Sorry if I am asking alot, sometimes I have to make my wife believe that she can do..

Take care
Praveen

Geplaatst: do sep 22, 2005 1:39 pm
door Willy
I started it. Because I was also diagnosed with cardiomyopathy

Here you will find success stories. Hopefully the story of your wife as wel soon:

http://cardiomyopathie-hartfalen.pilliewillie.nl/

Tell your wife that this is NOT a believe (religion), it is a Science :lol: :lol: :lol:

Geplaatst: do sep 22, 2005 1:44 pm
door praveen
Thanks Willy

I appreciate it.

Regards
Praveen

Geplaatst: do sep 22, 2005 1:52 pm
door praveen
Hello again

A local store that imports MSm says that
1 000mg of MSM made by Cardinal Nutrition in the USA is known to be the best MSM available worldwide.

Have you had any experience with this.

Thanks
Praveen